Squirrel CORVID

AntoineLaporte

Re: [skow] Squirrel CORVID

No I do not agree with you because of the actual SQ website's description of the LE that I quote above.

In reply to: Leading Edge Materials
Leading Edge Dacron

We offer two choices for wing surface Mylar reinforcement:

1. Porcher Sport (white). Comes standard.
2. Full GlideSkin. Increases glide performance and is more wrinkle-resistant. This option is recommended
If you can find an actual wingsuit from SQ with a full stretchable LE like on the Aura 2 I will agree with you.

skow

Re: [AntoineLaporte] Squirrel CORVID

So if they don't make suits with full glideskin LE, it means that the material is different?

But anyway, here you go - A3GS, pic attached

One more pic - LE.png, which explains the material, which you keep wrongly referring to as Glideskin

And one more pic attached of the actual glideskin wrist.

Also, as DFR pointed out, the SQ guys themselves said it's a typo and "it's actually foreskin that they use for their LE, not glideskin", but I guess "I both" knows better then the manufacturer

So here you have it, hard facts vs. your own incorrect interpretation.

AntoineLaporte

Re: [skow] Squirrel CORVID

I can be wrong, but if I am it would be because of SQ website's mistake.
Here attached a screen capture like your with the only new LE material AND GlideSkin written as description of it.

I still think I am right because of this picture, and I did not see the same evidence on your screen captures.

skow

Re: [AntoineLaporte] Squirrel CORVID

You are really just making yourself look ridiculous at this point

It has been stated that it's a typo (by the SQ themselves) but you still refer to it - for the sake of just wanting to be right (based on false evidence) and not trying to understand the facts.

But as I do enjoy looking at you trying to bend the actual information, here's one more pic. I marked with red the important words, that you clearly missed before

Good day to you . This thread got off-topiced enough, so I won't be replying to you again.

If you feel like it, you can write me a PM, but let's leave this for people to talk about the actual original topic.

AntoineLaporte

Re: [skow] Squirrel CORVID

Finally you put something out that can change my opinion.

My birth language is not English so by typo they mean mistake ?

Can you admit that if like me you are looking to the website and see the picture I attached you can be at least confused ? Without the DFR message it would be for me still a 50/50 between the 2 SQ descriptions.

I don't mind making myself look ridiculous, specially when I have a provided evidence of what I'm saying. The ridiculous here is that we can find 2 opposite description of the GlideSkin on SQ website, and they can take 5 minutes answer to DFR's mail but not the 1 minute to change the wrong description on their website.

Have a good day !

Rotbrett

Re: [DFR] Squirrel CORVID

Thanks for the review. Now I see how you were able to contact the "point of back deflection" while skydiving an A1 ( from your earlier A3 review ). You are built like a feather.
Cheers

trenwah

Re: [TomAiello] Squirrel CORVID

If I could be bothered making these, this could go on for a while.
88733-countries-that-use-the-metric-system-countries-that-lose-wars-20363461.png

Meat.Missile

Re: [trenwah] Squirrel CORVID

trenwah wrote: If I could be bothered making these, this could go on for a while.

hahahahaha well done.

TomAiello

Re: [trenwah] Squirrel CORVID

trenwah wrote: If I could be bothered making these, this could go on for a while.
You missed France there, on the list of countries that lose wars to Vietnamese farmers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...tle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu

I believe the French actually _invented_ the metric system.

Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
Snake River BASE Academy

OLopez

Re: [TomAiello] Squirrel CORVID

Ha, ha. Your initial chart was incomplete though

Rotbrett

Re: [DFR] Squirrel CORVID

DFR, just wondering if you have ever flown a Freak in skydiving or BASE and how your numbers compared to the bigger suits ,with your wing loading being so light ?
Cheers

Meat.Missile

Re: [OLopez] Squirrel CORVID

I would bet we used metric to put a man on the moon.

As for something close to being on topic. I wonder where the balance is between wing loading and glide?

DFR

Re: [Rotbrett] Squirrel CORVID

Rotbrett wrote: DFR, just wondering if you have ever flown a Freak in skydiving or BASE and how your numbers compared to the bigger suits ,with your wing loading being so light ?
Cheers
I put 7 jumps on a Freak1 years ago but had low skill and no flysight back then so nothing useful.

Im making a trip to Squamish soon and I might bring my A3 and C3 along with my Corvid so I could try to do a jump or two on each back to back in similar conditions and identical flights and post the tracks. Although we'll see what weather and plans allow.

DFR

Re: [outrager] Squirrel CORVID

Here is a track and video showing off some of the Corvid's performance.

Track:https://baseline.ws/...4b-87bc-bacf2f44f138
Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGUX-pgjYk

Over the last 4 jumps I have hit 148mph total speed on the suit in the 1.5ish GR, and am looking forward to seeing what it can do when I take it steeper or have room to hold that angle longer.

The start on this track is 675' (210m) mainly due to thin air at 12,000' (3,657m) and having a bit of gear in my suit from the approach. My other starts have been better.

The Corvid feels right at home coming from the A3 (my A1 jumps my have helped with that) Less effort on the starts, lighter wing pressure and easier pull, a little less sharp on the handling (less race suit feel), and a little less power on the flare (still got a 122' flare on one jump though). I think it is the right suit for anyone pushing it on short starts where they want something that will help them out if their exit isn't perfect, people who aren't mega current all the time and want a suit that is easier to fly, people who do a lot of alpine missions and need a suit with lower pressure and easy pitch and easy glide for their tired body after spending a day or two getting up the mountain, and people who are new to bigsuit WS BASE.

I've said before that I thought the A1/2 were good suits to move to for your first season of bigsuit WS BASE and then the A3 come out which was perfect for pilots who flew the 1/2 and were current with high skill. Those in that boat were able to unlock the extra performance in the A3 and utilize it and didn't have issues with their starts. But if you didn't have your exits dialed in or were new to bigsuit BASE, I don't think the A3 would be a good option due to the higher wing pressure and more technical start. I am very happy Squirrel now has a suit in their lineup that fills back in that newer jumper category and also has features the more experienced will appreciate.

roostnureye

Re: [DFR] Squirrel CORVID

Hey Daniel, can you ask those Squirrel guys if they will put backfly vents on a Corvid?

BASE 1580
Aussie BASE 121

DFR

Re: [roostnureye] Squirrel CORVID

Shoot them an email and I’m sure they’ll let you know but I wouldn’t bet on it. If you want a suit to backfly most of their other suits make more sense. Why do you want the Corvid with backfly inlets?

I have seen a handful of pictures of people backflying it no inlets.

MrAW

Re: [DFR] Squirrel CORVID

Are people doing short starts exiting on their back not a thing?

roostnureye

Re: [DFR] Squirrel CORVID

I just wanted to check back in with you guys and let you know the Corvid is an absolute animal on its back!!!!!
The fine folks over at Squirrel were able to accommodate my wishes for a Corvid with backfly inlets!!!!
I have only done a couple sky jumps on it and I am really happy with the results!! I had an Aura1 for my base suit for the last 4 seasons and decided it was time to step up to some newer technology.
The Corvid has a much thinner profile than the A1, and it feels a lot faster than the A1.
Internal pressure is a little higher on the Corvid than the A1 but not a huge difference.
The new sport profile arm foam is really nice! Huge improvement in the leading edge.
Leg stance is a little wider on the Corvid compared to the A1.
Grippers are really close to the same size.
The suit fits much better than the A1 and they were both made for me.
Flight characteristics are really similar and comfortable coming from A1, the Corvid is better in all aspects that I can find.
Backfly transitions are effortless, zero tail flapping at all.
This suit has so much power it's unreal. Super happy with it so far, can't wait for summertime and big walls.
I still need to work on my hand placement on the arm wing, as I know I'm holding the gripper incorrectly. The suit has a great balance to it and doesn't send you head low like a big tail normally does. Honestly couldn't be happier about fit/ finish/ and flight.
Print was designed by Sam and Cate Farrand from Tetramode.com
Squirrel did a fantastic job lining up the panels and vents.

BASE 1580
Aussie BASE 121

AntoineLaporte

Re: [roostnureye] Squirrel CORVID

I'm always having fun when people are making so entousiastics posts.

In reply to: The suit has a great balance to it and doesn't send you head low like a big tail normally does. https://squirrel.ws/wingsuits/freak
http://www.basejumper.com/...nt;postatt_id=88756;
Such a big tail !!! ....

In reply to: The fine folks over at Squirrel were able to accommodate my wishes for a Corvid with backfly inlets!!!! You paid, they made it. It's not a favor, it's not hard either for them (for me it would be :D)

The other parts and the comparaison between the A1 and the CORVID is intersting.

roostnureye

Re: [AntoineLaporte] Squirrel CORVID

Antoine, this is the first Corvid with backfly inlets.
So, actually yes they did do me a favor by adding them.

Also the tail is longer than a freak 3.

Have a good day

BASE 1580
Aussie BASE 121

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