Cheapest canopy out there

pedrooliv

Hello everyone, soon im going to buy a new canopy and was thinking about the ace or the mayhem. These are the cheapest right? I have read something about a russian manufacturer but couldnt find anything.
Anyway, if someone has experience with these canopys can you give me an advice? I've never jumped any of them, only seen them being jumped and both looked nice.
Thank you

Skez

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

Not sure about the cheapest but i think if u were to go vented the blackjack is good as most places will charge about 10grand for all them sorta options as in vents etc

And new is probably a good idea as people seem to want way to much $$ for there used canopies

GOON AN JUICE

DanielRjumps

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

If your goal is to fix the weird presurazion problem fixed on low airspeed openings that you're having with your unvented troll, you might want to think about something vented. Although I have put a few jumps on an ace (I think you were there for that) and it seemed to pressurize better than the troll. I also watched it get pca'd from a 180' E and land with more cells inflated that the lobo

BASE 1988

pedrooliv

Re: [DanielRjumps] Cheapest canopy out there

DanielRjumps wrote: If your goal is to fix the weird presurazion problem fixed on low airspeed openings that you're having with your unvented troll, you might want to think about something vented. Although I have put a few jumps on an ace (I think you were there for that) and it seemed to pressurize better than the troll. I also watched it get pca'd from a 180' E and land with more cells inflated that the lobo

Pressurization problems? Nonsense!! too broke for vents, i'll just stick with Miles packjob for now. The one from adrenalinbase didnt seem to work very well. mmm.. I was only when you jumped *THE* 180
Cool, i was thinking about the ace too, specialy after i saw the video of the guy with the mayhem, losing some A lines on opening...
Thanks Daniel

TomAiello

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

Ace.

I know all the price lists and the Ace is hundreds of dollars cheaper than any other new canopy from a major manufacturer. Plus, it's built by PD, and the quality control (and support afterward if there's an issue with the build) is excellent.

Glide is great, flare is strong, stability in deep brakes is excellent.

If you're looking for an unvented canopy there's really no reason to go with anything else.

Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
Snake River BASE Academy

pedrooliv

Re: [TomAiello] Cheapest canopy out there

TomAiello wrote: Ace.

I know all the price lists and the Ace is hundreds of dollars cheaper than any other new canopy from a major manufacturer. Plus, it's built by PD, and the quality control (and support afterward if there's an issue with the build) is excellent.

Glide is great, flare is strong, stability in deep brakes is excellent.

If you're looking for an unvented canopy there's really no reason to go with anything else.
Awesome! Thats what i need, cheap quality. We'll see if it beats the troll
Thanks Tom

pedrooliv

Re: [Skez] Cheapest canopy out there

Skez wrote: Not sure about the cheapest but i think if u were to go vented the blackjack is good as most places will charge about 10grand for all them sorta options as in vents etc

And new is probably a good idea as people seem to want way to much $$ for there used canopies
Blackjacks look pretty cool but they are a little too expensive for my budget right now. That is true, and i really dont understand why people try to sell their used gear so expensive

MBA-PATTO

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

If you put the word Cheap in a sentence with your base career I wish you good luck my dear sir..

How much is your life worth

http://www.blincmagazine.com/...=Fatality_Statistics
http://www.blincmagazine.com/...e=BASE_Fatality_List

idemallie

Re: [MBA-PATTO] Cheapest canopy out there

MBA-PATTO wrote: If you put the word Cheap in a sentence with your base career I wish you good luck my dear sir..

How much is your life worth

Maybe it's tongue in cheek, but I totally disagree with this. My first container was a clapped out $200 velcro Wizard. I put about 100 belly to earth slider down jumps on it, and it did it's job as well as any other new container on the market could have. Next time I go to the bridge in Idaho, I'm probably going to be jumping that container with my Raven III, and it's going to be a lot of fun, relatively safe jumping. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it isn't an effective tool for the job.

pedrooliv

Re: [MBA-PATTO] Cheapest canopy out there

MBA-PATTO wrote: If you put the word Cheap in a sentence with your base career I wish you good luck my dear sir..

How much is your life worth

Your right, i should get a cruislite

BigMark

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

I have a Nova with a NEW tail pocket installed, it's even self packing. Unfortunately it normally does it 40' above the ground.

pedrooliv

Re: [BigMark] Cheapest canopy out there

I actually googled nova

Skez

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

Wtf is a nova lol?...i only know of the nova paraglider

GOON AN JUICE

idemallie

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

pedrooliv wrote: MBA-PATTO wrote: If you put the word Cheap in a sentence with your base career I wish you good luck my dear sir..

How much is your life worth

Your right, i should get a cruislite
Lol, I was not suggesting you should get a converted skydiving canopy (or a velcro rig). Rather, I think that would be a pretty poor decision, depending on what kind of jumping you are doing. I was just making the point that economical and safe aren't mutually exclusive. I got my Raven for skydiving to stay current on an F-111 7-cell canopy, and given my financial situation, familiarity with the gear I'm using, and comfort level with that particular object, it doesn't make sense for me to wear out my relatively new, vented, expensive canopy which I use for my other jumps.

hookitt

Re: [Skez] Cheapest canopy out there

Skez wrote: Wtf is a nova lol?...i only know of the nova paraglider
The post was a little dumb..., but a Nova was a 9 cell ZP canopy built in the very early 90s by Glidepath. It had a small design flaw that caused some of them to collapse, especially under front riser approaches. At the time, it was considered high performance similar to a Sabre, but ever so slightly faster, and not.particularly stable.

People died. Some people lucked out and were only scared. The canopy collapsed and reinflated before landing. A sponsored skydiver in Eloy landed once, took scissors to it and threw one away.

Confidence is the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.

sky4meplease

Re: [hookitt] Cheapest canopy out there

If you opt for a pre-owned Ace (I have two) get one built by PD.
I have one DOM 01/2001 not built by PD and one DOM 06/2001 built by PD. I believe you can tell PD built it if the bar tacks on control line attachment to tail and stabilizer attachments to control lines are blue F thread.
The one DOM 01/2001 needed major repair was sent to PD and they refused to repair it. If the repair requires technical information that PD does not have then you will be out of luck.
I otherwise have no complaints about the ACE canopy.
My other advise would be to buy BASE specific gear no matter the cost unless you plan on jumping spans and water landing your hole life.

Remember this is supposed to be fun-BASE 1000

douchekiller

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

You may want to wait a month or two. I was at Apex a month ago and I talked to Todd, they are coming out with a Harness & Container / Canopy set up at a really low competitive price, basically making it so you don't even consider other gear if you are shopping based on price. Those were the only details I could squeeze out of him. Give him a call to find out their timeline for release / price.

pedrooliv

Re: [sky4meplease] Cheapest canopy out there

sky4meplease wrote: If you opt for a pre-owned Ace (I have two) get one built by PD.
I have one DOM 01/2001 not built by PD and one DOM 06/2001 built by PD. I believe you can tell PD built it if the bar tacks on control line attachment to tail and stabilizer attachments to control lines are blue F thread.
The one DOM 01/2001 needed major repair was sent to PD and they refused to repair it. If the repair requires technical information that PD does not have then you will be out of luck.
I otherwise have no complaints about the ACE canopy.
My other advise would be to buy BASE specific gear no matter the cost unless you plan on jumping spans and water landing your hole life.
I'll buy new, so it will be PD manufactured. I actually would like to have a skydive reserve for that. Thanks for the advice

pedrooliv

Re: [douchekiller] Cheapest canopy out there

douchekiller wrote: You may want to wait a month or two. I was at Apex a month ago and I talked to Todd, they are coming out with a Harness & Container / Canopy set up at a really low competitive price, basically making it so you don't even consider other gear if you are shopping based on price. Those were the only details I could squeeze out of him. Give him a call to find out their timeline for release / price. Interesting

jtholmes

Re: [pedrooliv] Cheapest canopy out there

Raven is the cheapest. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

I am right, as usual.