Norway

vanair

Hi, sorry but there is too much info to sift thru. I am looking to go to Norway in Sept. Could some one please tell me or direct me to the proper thread. I would like to know where a good place to jump is, not the most extreme but readily accessible, cheap places to stay, where to fly into, Oslo I assume? Locale contacts etc. please feel free to PM me. VANAIRONE@HOTMAIL.COM
Thank-You
Van

SLAMBO

Re: [vanair] Norway

http://www.basekjerag.com/

Fly into Stavanger and take the ferry to Kjerag.

Lonnie

Re: [vanair] Norway

No such thing as cheap in Norway!

NEVER GIVE UP!!

MBA-PATTO

Re: [SLAMBO] Norway

what date in september as the kjerag base klubb finishes jumping around 7th of september..but it depends on where in norway ya heading...

also hope ya got a bit of cash.

http://www.blincmagazine.com/...=Fatality_Statistics
http://www.blincmagazine.com/...e=BASE_Fatality_List

elma

Re: [MBA-PATTO] Norway

Kjerag will be open for jumping till end of september this year

vanair

Re: [elma] Norway

anyone know of another site? Maybe closer to Oslo? I hear Kjerag is expensive. And why do I need a base specific rig when I'm jumping off a 3,000' rock that will give me at least a 10" delay tracking away and opening around 1,500'?

SLAMBO

Re: [vanair] Norway

Dude, you are going to Norway. Are you serious about the pricing? Go to Oslo and jump some subterminal.
Kjerag is the best place to go to bang out jumps in Norway in my opinion.
I like it, using skydiving gear.

elma

Re: [vanair] Norway

Nearest Terminal cliffs in Oslo is in Romsdal (google it), but you need to know local base jumpers to get to the exits, it's very easy to get lost up there as the hiking path are not marked up like Kjerag..
Kjerag is as expensive as you make it,, depend where you are staying, buy all the food at camping
or the cheap way; buy it in the market in Stavanger city before you arrive, if you like beer or boz, I recommend you buy it before you arrive at Lysebotn/kjerag aswell, as the pub's in ALL of Norway will get you bank robbed, if you gonna continuously have drinks at the bar(just my 2cents).

As for the BASE jumping at Kjerag,,,Stavanger BASE Klubb is a volunteer group,that runs Buses to drive all of the jumpers up to where the 2 hour hiking path starts,, and when you land on the LZ, preferably if you don't want to swim 30minutes back to your site in icecold saltwater and holding on to your canopy while gobbling for air, they have a boat waiting to pick you all up.
So that's why they have the regi fee+ boat/bus fee..
..Gas is not for free. Especially not in Norway.
As for BASE specific gear, common?!! We are in 2011, this is not Bridge Day sorry..
The landing area at Kjerag is tight with big boulder rocks,so you don't want to mess up your landings.
And if you actually get your track going , you are NOT gonna pull at 1500ft trust me.. You are gonna go low and dirty So hope this answers it all,, and if you still think it's expensive, you should consider to travel to Brento, as the wine there is cheaper then a bottle of water

wwarped

Re: [vanair] Norway

it might seem expensive to buy BASE specific gear, and head to Kjerag (one of the best places for low timers to jump a terminal wall), but remember this: it is cheaper than paying hospital bills!

some skydivers think BASE will be cheaper than skydiving. it frequently is NOT the case.

-free with 3-

juanitos

Re: [wwarped] Norway

+10

Basjkall

Re: [vanair] Norway

If you are lucky there will be nice conditions then, if you are not - bring your snow shoes...

MBA-PATTO

Re: [vanair] Norway

(VANAIR)Are you serious? do your homework mate...
Have you done a basejump?

Elma said everything...+1

http://www.blincmagazine.com/...=Fatality_Statistics
http://www.blincmagazine.com/...e=BASE_Fatality_List

michalm21

Re: [MBA-PATTO] Norway

Vanair is one of 6 (I believe) people who jumped the World Trade Center... and it was his first B.A.S.E

But yeah, get B.A.S.E. specific grear and pull low :)

MEA

Re: [michalm21] Norway

you mean he is Van Refuse?

AusJack

Re: [MEA] Norway

MEA wrote: you mean he is Van Refuse?
Yep...

vanair wrote: In 1980 when I jumped off The World Trade Center I wish I had turned around and said "Don't worry folks, I have a parachute" As I was later told a lot of people got really upset. They only saw me go over the edge, not the safe outcome below. If someone had had a heart attack that would not have been good.

Cheers>>Jack

vanair

Re: [MEA] Norway

It's Van Rafuse, not with an E. And how base specific does it have to be? meaning I can certainly agree about needing an accuracy canopy but then can I jump my skydiving rig. I don't plan on opening lower than 1500'. Also if you want to read about my WTC jump. go to Dropzone.com, Forums, History and Trivia, go to page 5 of "who's jumped a Strato-Star" I wrote about it.

waltappel

Re: [vanair] Norway

vanair wrote: It's Van Rafuse, not with an E. And how base specific does it have to be? meaning I can certainly agree about needing an accuracy canopy but then can I jump my skydiving rig. I don't plan on opening lower than 1500'. Also if you want to read about my WTC jump. go to Dropzone.com, Forums, History and Trivia, go to page 5 of "who's jumped a Strato-Star" I wrote about it.
I've only been there once but from what I can see, any lightly loaded low aspect ratio seven cell that you can do solid accuracy on and gives good on heading performance will be fine. The canopy really does not have to be BASE-specific.

That applies *after* you get to the exit point, though. The hike from the drop off point to the exit points can be a real bitch, so travelling light is a serious plus. A two-canopy system inherently weighs more and that difference can be hellish on a tough hike.

My understanding is that there are multiple ways to get to the exit points and that some are easier than others. Before you commit to a gear choice, ask questions about the hike.

For example, will there be any portions of the hike where the trail is inches wide and you are clinging to the side of a cliff wall? In that situation, both bulk and weight make a huge difference, as does the effect your gear has on your center of mass.

Ask about any cravasses you will be traversing. Will you have to do any semi-technical climbing or jumping across cracks that can swallow you if you fuck up?

Will you be climbing *down* any rocks on the way to the exit point?

Your gear choice needs to not only not fuck you up on the jump, it needs to not fuck you up on the hike.

Don't assume that the strong recommendations you hear about BASE gear vs. skydiving gear are all based on hype. Many of these recommendations are based on lots and lots of practical experience at the site and are not based solely on what is required for the jump.

Personally, I'd say fuck the hiking and go for the heli-boogie, but I am one of the PuSsies BIG crowd.

Your mileage may vary.

Dunny

Re: [vanair] Norway

Very interesting is your interpretation of the altitude of the mountains here. The heights of these exits are measured to the landing area and i cant think of any exits with the landing area directly below exit. To be guarenteed 1500´above the ground at all times you would need a 12 sec rockdrop at exit then a talis that matches your descent rate thruout the jump and then an accurate devise to measure above 1500´before canopy deployment.
I began base using skydive gear in ´89. I would never use it now for base jumping, there are so many improvements have been made to all types of parachutes used for a variety of reasons, now canopies are specifically made for purpose. Base gear is even now made for different types of base jumps. I have 3 different rigs for different applications.
Please do not come to Norway ignoring any advice you have asked for.
If you are who you say you are please contact me and we will try to assist you. Including a loan of the gear you need.

BSBD

Måndalenbase yo WWTD?

Dunny

Re: [vanair] Norway

Have you made all of your 47 jumps on SD gear?

Måndalenbase yo WWTD?

vanair

Re: [Dunny] Norway

Yes, In the 80s I used my Safety Star reserve. It was ahead of its time. It was a 5 cell with slip knot tied off brake lines with no keepers so in case of a line over they could be released and then fly rear risers. It opened fast, free bag, no restrictive corners. Some things that aren't on current reserves. My regular rig, just took the main out and taped all the flaps down so no snags. So yes I used it on the WTC, Verrazano Narrows bridge, Run across the top till I wasn't running any more and pull. 690'. And off an antenna in Mass. 1350'. I climbed and jumped that 15 times from 1980-84. So that thing worked well for a low jump and pull to close to terminal off the antenna. And yes I realize that 690' is not low today, but that thing opened pretty quick. the other 30 or so have been over the years at bridge day with my regular main, with the usual changes, large PC etc.